“I just didn’t want everything that comes with all that, you know labels wanting to define me going we’ll sign you but we need Matt doing ‘x, y and z’ but he’s a mate and I’m not signing him up to anything, he can do what he wants. Helders produced the record, played on it and put his unique print on the sound but won’t be performing live due to the scheduling issues, partly the reason why they chose to independently release the record. We said all along that even if nothing had come from it, it was good for us both to have done it.” It was proper as well cos’ I was staying in the house with his family and then we were doing stuff together next door in the garage the whole day, I was kinda like their special guest as L.A.’s obviously a bit more interesting than Sheffield so he was taking me around doing stuff. beckoned for musical reasons and, the way in which Carnall candidly speaks about his friendship with Helders is touchingly wholesome and one most 30-something’s can relate to: “There’s always a few of us who make an effort but it’s just nice like with any mate who you’ve not seen in a while to spend quality time with. The tale of different paths taken by Carnall’s Milburn and Helders’ Arctic Monkeys is, conceivably, one of the polar opposites and one that could even be written into Hollywood’s big screen in some capacity. The remix has never been put out because of the timings and all that but he liked what I did and obviously we’re mates anyway so that’s like the hardest thing to find sort of, he likes what I do, he gets what I do, and I like where he takes things.” The idea of working with Helders has been on the cards for years, their friendship has been born out of the strong Sheffield rock and roll material: “He did a remix for me the first time around and then that kind of informed where it ultimately finished up, I think. That shaped a lot of the sound originally and then we took it to L.A and it kicked on again with all Matt’s equipment and ideas as well.” It was quite nice to just sit down with my laptop and I didn’t have to wait for the drummer to turn up and I can just do it myself. “When you’ve been in bands for years, you’re constantly having to meet up with people, stood in a shithole on a Tuesday night working the songs out. I sense that perhaps the solo/side project has been birthed out of the desperation for change, for the ability to have a little more control over his artistic output: “I went to LA with all these demos that I’d made on Garage Band,” he said with a slight chuckle but quickly followed it up with: “I found that quite liberating as well.” He added: “It’s more of a pallet thing as well, we went back to guitars and all that which is great but by the time of sorting getting round to doing my own thing again, I’d sort of had my filling, I didn’t want to go out on stage with more guitars.”īeing in a band with your brother along with two of your oldest mates who, incidentally, are also brothers can be bloody hard work.
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